hi folks welcome to Italy we had the chance to tour the Baroni factory just outside of Milan and what a cool place a lot of history here and even more cutting-edge technology when it comes to measuring tools tool offsets and tool and data management we had a wonderfully charismatic host mr. Scaroni himself sit back relax and enjoy you know these machines right Swiss machines - old machines what we do here we finish you can see now he's finishing the seeding of our guideways on our large machines which is the footer line it's still a very critical part of our process it's manual yes but it's the only one that still guarantees the precision that we need when we assemble guideways and see our our spindle system so the Torah and Maja's 0% done here finishing part time out comment below if you have a story about these sip machines I had never heard of them but it was awesome to see the other folks on the mt emei tour who just their eyes lit up when they saw these these machines were the gold standard and to this day are some of the most accurate machines ever made in the history of the machine tool world so it's really cool to see yeah they're a little bit older their manual but they're able to do what they need to do in credibly well especially on future us we make sure that the complete assembly actually delivers the quality we need the precision we need so in this case this is the biggest machine we make it's inches in height and diameter the laser here position is positioning every millimetres we can make it position every one millimeter basically it goes up and down basically what is checking for is actual we say okay go millimeters the laser says we are going millimeters the scale is reading millimeters and everything kind of comes within our in our specification it's a very undulated graph but on inches what you see there is seven microns so on future as we do this what we did before as well you don't know this but you will now what we're trying to do now is especially for these big machines and because priests errors that you want to see me for in the presentation or become are becoming more and more of a measuring machine as well as a pre setter a lot of people use it for incoming quality control so it is a measuring machine so precision becomes more and more important than repeatability the sheer repeatability we're going to turn this way to show you this centerline his assembly subcomponents is ascending a z-axis you're going to start seeing here a little bit of how we do our guideway system it's not your conventional guideway systems you can start seeing the machining that we do on the ships the recirculating ball bearings even if this is our entry-level model it's the same concept that we use on our large model so this machine here was introduced last year it was introduced after years and years and years and years of begging from somebody not him so much but somebody that is close to him and years and years but a name and everybody that works with them thing is that making an entry-level model for the extremely aggressive target that was given to us by somebody I'm not gonna name keeping our construction characteristics our brand not creating an alternative brand sub brand or so on and so forth was extremely challenging but last year we finally were able to let's say develop something that is delivering the quality that we were asked to deliver keeping our brand and keeping our construction characteristics so it's a smaller casting but concepts are all the same cast iron and homogeneous so on and so forth the z-axis assembling is exactly the same the same concept this is the only machine that we they are the only platform that we make in the present time we're trying to make but we make for stock so it's on it because it's a one-size machine so it's inches by inches it only comes manual it's a left hand or right hand machine that can be configured right right at your shop or before it shipped but it's a one size sort of entry-level with all the characteristic you need and we are able or we're trying to make it for stock because after so many years of begging actually the market responded in a pretty good way and now we are sort of trying to catch up with deliveries and I'm getting beat up there as well so only only only the last years of sort of used to it but you know I'm getting all two so I opened hopefully he's gonna let up a little bit not a lot but it apart from the structure which is visibly different than the future line and the mass it's a machine that can do exactly the same thing the biggest difference is the mass and the spindle concept which will look as soon as we switch over here Maja's it's it's set up machines rotation depending on the configuration it's a little bit more difficult than the st. essentially is four machines four four four four but depending on the complexity some take longer so they kind of move around on the same process up to a certain level and then they split up depending on the configuration of the machines see to reline what he's doing here right now is basically he's verifying the adapter the final finishing of the adapter lapping is done it's done manually so this is the particular particular aspect that differentiates a lot is the first - let's say platforms and the future align what mr. sproingy is showing here is actually amazing this is designed to sit into an automated cell it's a tool precentor combined with a heat shrink system that includes cooling capability so it can heat up the tool holder insert the tool with a robotic arm cool the tool off and then measure the height run out where comput Center but the coolest thing is the part you can't even see there's an adjustable rod inside that machine that raises up and when the robotic arm loads the tool into the heat shrink holder that adjustable rod serves as a stop so that you can repeat your gauge length or your stick out to an incredibly accurate degree which is very important for certain production environments when you need repeatable overall tool links really cool he's assembling a cap toe adapter so we saw before he was just doing a taper capita is now standard you can do it this case and we do a lot a lot of different specials lathe are very creative and we do a lot of special for them the key part is that we guarantee the same sort of seating that there is in the machine tool I said before and also in our machines so no matter what you the changeover is the difference here is we have a knob because captors to be pulled you cannot just put it on there and and get a precision on your tool so we remote the clamping part of it in the captain what we try to show here is as you heard we are a man we try to be a manufacturing company and we really make pretty much everything this is a full sub assembly of our mechanical clamping system on the footer' lines and these are some of the parts that are inside and they're all made behind this wall here and the machines are off because I said it right so but this is a that's an interesting part that we make this is another part that we make these parts are all parts you know this part goes on here and they spin locks and pulls the whole system down so time out folks what he just showed there was the whole sub assembly of the two appreciator that serves as the clamping mechanism these parts were spectacular he was being very humble and modest but the precision the tolerances the complexities of these parts and how they work and how they act as fingers that pull down as a traditional pull stud is amazing and they make them all in-house we make our own air chamber mechanism to actually activate the air bearing and up to the actual lever that we finish machine in order to fit the specs to clamp pretty much every tool so these are some of the part that we make here what you what you see here what we've done here it show you a little bit of the of this Cynthia casting one of the challenges we had with with the Cynthia as you can see I mean this one you can lift but it's pretty heavy to go back to what Jack was saying so the three major casting of our center line this is the cross light which is made into one casting that then becomes to the goal here was to try to change a little bit the way we manufacture even our casting because we didn't we wanted to eliminate the finishing process the manual finishing process on the sips because of the target of this machine the cost target so it's an entry level and so so we redesigned the casting we redesigned a little bit the way we were holding it and now we mill it and finish it on this large machine here why so large because sure we make our large parts on here but it will also make more at once we do a pre inspection somebody before asked me to do a pre inspection in machine to make sure that the quality is what we need and then we have a CMM at the end that once in a while we make sure that we are keeping this sort of this sort of toners eliminating this finishing process which is manual allowed us to you know eliminating a process keep our costs down yet delivering a pretty good quality I mean we are within microns on 0 millimeters by clamping the part one time tooling you know who they are from because obviously we couldn't be able to make this sort of precision without a big plus tooling system in here actually that was I mean jokes apart that was a part of the spec in order to achieve this sort of quality over and over our tool room but this you've saw you saw already the concept of of everything he's doing and we're doing in here we have a 0 axis tool procedure that we use for incoming inspection of the tools so it's more of a major machine that it is a pre setter and we have a futurist system sorry an experience system which is the model before the feature the one on the side that we use for presetting the tools for rather for our for our machines some simple parts over here and again to show you a little bit of how much we do in terms of manufacturing these are some of the parts that we do on the Mori and on the on this machines here but we do from our gears this part here assembles our rotation of our CNC system on our magic spindle this is part of our mechanical clamping on on the magic line similar to what you saw there but you know yet a little bit different and these here that they are all parts that we manufacture out of one bar so we make multiple parts so again it's an investment that normally let's say when we bought it you know Mori was even saying ah but you don't make a lot of volume say no we make one offs so in order to make volume of one off we redesigned a lot of our components so that from one bar we could make different parts and the machine could work but still making one offs so the longest one I think is nineteen different parts which we make a run what they call it that we can run so we start Friday we finish Monday and it just goes and goes and goes so it's aluminum but some of the parts are you know complex some of the parts are this is been sanded but are interesting coming from Bartok I mean it's pretty pretty nice and this one here it's actually what similar to what we use in our transmission system of our Maja's C&C; this is from the couture line so this is our transmission so it's a smooth bar with split nuts which actually opens to make it manual so you have a quick movement and if not with these bearings which are on an angle allow us to position microns at the time that other certain angle so and we make this component the bearing off easily by an assembly so but I mean even even a very simple part like a fine adjustment of our machines we don't buy we make it part of the stock support system of the split and of emerges little tiny parts of the wheels I mean really when we say we make everything we we do it it helps being close to the actual customers a market that we have with pretty much run into the same problems with tooling we try to push the envelope and come up with ideas to make them more productive it allows us to also test in a way our products you know we put them put into market feedback we get from from them so CMM which that's right or second this is actually our product I mean we made this product from more or less upped until 0 it's a CMM made for a shop floor environment so it's the same construction characteristics as our pre setters we don't sell it anymore we service it we still have a certain number of them out in the in the market mainly car manufacturers in Europe in Italy for example one as a bull in their logo one as a horse in their logo one has makes brakes for these ones that starts with a bee I mean they they all still have these we still certify them and this is one we kept for ourselves because we measure parts we measure the taper of our spindles and measure some other parts where as opposed on this side where we finished grind all of our parts we do to sort of inspections basically what you see there is a rotation of our is checking magic spindles right now that the sensor we are using is one tenth of a micron in terms of resolution we take a point every milliseconds and we do two rotations so this range that the complete rotation twice around all of this ugly graph is 0.0 microns so anything close to a micron or over a micron he doesn't like it was a way he regrind it because the spindle is the key one of the key components is not the key component we see the priests error we said before as the zero point of your manufacturing you set your tools it gets scatter guarantee it's in the same position in the machine there's a whole lot of other things that are happening while you're manufacturing and if something happens you got to go back to a sure point so the closest to zero we can get the better is for you I mean one of the first things and we still hear it sometimes I don't need that precision why do I need it so precise because we are the zero point who wants a ruler that those zero one and sort of guessing in between if we see yourself at zero the closest we are at zero and guaranteed is zero to you the manufacturer the more you have for other things and there's a whole lot of other things out there and also coming back repeatability job number one something happens I got a book go back to it's your point this is why we're sort of extreme in trying to look for these half microns and tenth of a micron everywhere here we do ID or the you'll see flanges you see a lot of our components or all of our round parts we do here the other thing is doing which is assembling a spindle of a majus basically there you'll see as well we don't use a commercial bearing we make our own bearing so we make the sealing we put in our fears sorry and then we actually pack the bearing ourselves to meant to guarantee that sort of precision outside so this is something we also do on the magic on the future and on the ascent is Pindos so here are some of the part that we I mean pretty much everything and anything that that you see then on your on the machines so this year is machine serial number four it was actually built in as you saw we introduce them in and this is when we started making preset as you saw you know we got this idea of making preserves how should we make them this is our very first interpretation we didn't make a bench top we didn't make we make something that in some ways in terms of size very similar to a to a machine tool you know down to the micron fine adjustment rotating spindle obviously dial indicators the optic system came after but this is interpretation number of number one so that's counting see that's the last thing it's a it's one my current I wanted the graphics of the new soffit to look like that they said no I couldn't do it not yet but and what you'll see on here it's a tool I didn't put it here by mistake it's actually wanted because well because those days the plant was built we were we started becoming from a job shop making sub assembly for machine to manufacture to a preset a company we purchased I say we because the first sip machine and sip in Switzerland C sip logo and this other logo Kaiser logo made tools so the machine already cost pretty much as much as the land the whole building and everything so during a trip my dad at Kaiser with mr. Kaiser Heinz not mr. Kaiser bought tools from him and because of customs he actually smuggled the tools under the seat of his chin which into into Italy in order not to pay to save like some sort of and that's right here and on the sea huh no what do you smell attractive so but this is actually one of them and in the drawers of the SIP we still use some of the original Kaiser tools in those in the safe to do some open so that's why it's here and the head and the head still works also of course that's the Grande yes the holder is not original but the difference here on the scales you see if I push this there are absolute scales because you didn't have the zeroing so anywhere you are it starts counting so you always measured with difference no so as you can see I mean the spindle still turns within a few microns fast movement fine adjustment moving you tested before so in the showroom portion at Cerrone they had some really awesome demonstrations on how to use their to pre setters but then also what's coming kind of what's that next step and their tool management system was pretty impressive actually effectively at the version of what we saw in the big Kaiser Tour card here to that factory to our video but it is total information think like an ERP system but for every cutting tool for every insert for every collet for every holder organization storage bins that interface machines or tablets that could be at your pcs really fascinating a really great presentation and the hospitality here was second to none they had a wonderful event with wonderful food and they effectively shut down their facility for a day to allow us to get a really good intimate tour and see how their products were made so big shout out and the big THANK YOU to the spur ot team for that hope you folks learn something hope you enjoyed take care see you soon
Speroni Factory Tour: Cutting Edge Meets High Precision!
hi folks welcome to Italy we had the chance to tour the Baroni factory just outside of Milan and what a cool place a lot of history here and even more cutting-edge technology when it comes to measuring tools tool offsets and tool and data management we had a wonderfully charismatic host mr. Scaroni himself sit back relax and enjoy you know these machines right Swiss machines - old machines what we do here we finish you can see now he's finishing the seeding of our guideways on our large machines which is the footer line it's still a very critical part of our process it's manual yes but it's the only one that still guarantees the precision that we need when we assemble guideways and see our our spindle system so the Torah and Maja's 0% done here finishing part time out comment below if you have a story about these sip machines I had never heard of them but it was awesome to see the other folks on the mt emei tour who just their eyes lit up when they saw these these machines were the gold standard and to this day are some of the most accurate machines ever made in the history of the machine tool world so it's really cool to see yeah they're a little bit older their manual but they're able to do what they need to do in credibly well especially on future us we make sure that the complete assembly actually delivers the quality we need the precision we need so in this case this is the biggest machine we make it's inches in height and diameter the laser here position is positioning every millimetres we can make it position every one millimeter basically it goes up and down basically what is checking for is actual we say okay go millimeters the laser says we are going millimeters the scale is reading millimeters and everything kind of comes within our in our specification it's a very undulated graph but on inches what you see there is seven microns so on future as we do this what we did before as well you don't know this but you will now what we're trying to do now is especially for these big machines and because priests errors that you want to see me for in the presentation or become are becoming more and more of a measuring machine as well as a pre setter a lot of people use it for incoming quality control so it is a measuring machine so precision becomes more and more important than repeatability the sheer repeatability we're going to turn this way to show you this centerline his assembly subcomponents is ascending a z-axis you're going to start seeing here a little bit of how we do our guideway system it's not your conventional guideway systems you can start seeing the machining that we do on the ships the recirculating ball bearings even if this is our entry-level model it's the same concept that we use on our large model so this machine here was introduced last year it was introduced after years and years and years and years of begging from somebody not him so much but somebody that is close to him and years and years but a name and everybody that works with them thing is that making an entry-level model for the extremely aggressive target that was given to us by somebody I'm not gonna name keeping our construction characteristics our brand not creating an alternative brand sub brand or so on and so forth was extremely challenging but last year we finally were able to let's say develop something that is delivering the quality that we were asked to deliver keeping our brand and keeping our construction characteristics so it's a smaller casting but concepts are all the same cast iron and homogeneous so on and so forth the z-axis assembling is exactly the same the same concept this is the only machine that we they are the only platform that we make in the present time we're trying to make but we make for stock so it's on it because it's a one-size machine so it's inches by inches it only comes manual it's a left hand or right hand machine that can be configured right right at your shop or before it shipped but it's a one size sort of entry-level with all the characteristic you need and we are able or we're trying to make it for stock because after so many years of begging actually the market responded in a pretty good way and now we are sort of trying to catch up with deliveries and I'm getting beat up there as well so only only only the last years of sort of used to it but you know I'm getting all two so I opened hopefully he's gonna let up a little bit not a lot but it apart from the structure which is visibly different than the future line and the mass it's a machine that can do exactly the same thing the biggest difference is the mass and the spindle concept which will look as soon as we switch over here Maja's it's it's set up machines rotation depending on the configuration it's a little bit more difficult than the st. essentially is four machines four four four four but depending on the complexity some take longer so they kind of move around on the same process up to a certain level and then they split up depending on the configuration of the machines see to reline what he's doing here right now is basically he's verifying the adapter the final finishing of the adapter lapping is done it's done manually so this is the particular particular aspect that differentiates a lot is the first - let's say platforms and the future align what mr. sproingy is showing here is actually amazing this is designed to sit into an automated cell it's a tool precentor combined with a heat shrink system that includes cooling capability so it can heat up the tool holder insert the tool with a robotic arm cool the tool off and then measure the height run out where comput Center but the coolest thing is the part you can't even see there's an adjustable rod inside that machine that raises up and when the robotic arm loads the tool into the heat shrink holder that adjustable rod serves as a stop so that you can repeat your gauge length or your stick out to an incredibly accurate degree which is very important for certain production environments when you need repeatable overall tool links really cool he's assembling a cap toe adapter so we saw before he was just doing a taper capita is now standard you can do it this case and we do a lot a lot of different specials lathe are very creative and we do a lot of special for them the key part is that we guarantee the same sort of seating that there is in the machine tool I said before and also in our machines so no matter what you the changeover is the difference here is we have a knob because captors to be pulled you cannot just put it on there and and get a precision on your tool so we remote the clamping part of it in the captain what we try to show here is as you heard we are a man we try to be a manufacturing company and we really make pretty much everything this is a full sub assembly of our mechanical clamping system on the footer' lines and these are some of the parts that are inside and they're all made behind this wall here and the machines are off because I said it right so but this is a that's an interesting part that we make this is another part that we make these parts are all parts you know this part goes on here and they spin locks and pulls the whole system down so time out folks what he just showed there was the whole sub assembly of the two appreciator that serves as the clamping mechanism these parts were spectacular he was being very humble and modest but the precision the tolerances the complexities of these parts and how they work and how they act as fingers that pull down as a traditional pull stud is amazing and they make them all in-house we make our own air chamber mechanism to actually activate the air bearing and up to the actual lever that we finish machine in order to fit the specs to clamp pretty much every tool so these are some of the part that we make here what you what you see here what we've done here it show you a little bit of the of this Cynthia casting one of the challenges we had with with the Cynthia as you can see I mean this one you can lift but it's pretty heavy to go back to what Jack was saying so the three major casting of our center line this is the cross light which is made into one casting that then becomes to the goal here was to try to change a little bit the way we manufacture even our casting because we didn't we wanted to eliminate the finishing process the manual finishing process on the sips because of the target of this machine the cost target so it's an entry level and so so we redesigned the casting we redesigned a little bit the way we were holding it and now we mill it and finish it on this large machine here why so large because sure we make our large parts on here but it will also make more at once we do a pre inspection somebody before asked me to do a pre inspection in machine to make sure that the quality is what we need and then we have a CMM at the end that once in a while we make sure that we are keeping this sort of this sort of toners eliminating this finishing process which is manual allowed us to you know eliminating a process keep our costs down yet delivering a pretty good quality I mean we are within microns on 0 millimeters by clamping the part one time tooling you know who they are from because obviously we couldn't be able to make this sort of precision without a big plus tooling system in here actually that was I mean jokes apart that was a part of the spec in order to achieve this sort of quality over and over our tool room but this you've saw you saw already the concept of of everything he's doing and we're doing in here we have a 0 axis tool procedure that we use for incoming inspection of the tools so it's more of a major machine that it is a pre setter and we have a futurist system sorry an experience system which is the model before the feature the one on the side that we use for presetting the tools for rather for our for our machines some simple parts over here and again to show you a little bit of how much we do in terms of manufacturing these are some of the parts that we do on the Mori and on the on this machines here but we do from our gears this part here assembles our rotation of our CNC system on our magic spindle this is part of our mechanical clamping on on the magic line similar to what you saw there but you know yet a little bit different and these here that they are all parts that we manufacture out of one bar so we make multiple parts so again it's an investment that normally let's say when we bought it you know Mori was even saying ah but you don't make a lot of volume say no we make one offs so in order to make volume of one off we redesigned a lot of our components so that from one bar we could make different parts and the machine could work but still making one offs so the longest one I think is nineteen different parts which we make a run what they call it that we can run so we start Friday we finish Monday and it just goes and goes and goes so it's aluminum but some of the parts are you know complex some of the parts are this is been sanded but are interesting coming from Bartok I mean it's pretty pretty nice and this one here it's actually what similar to what we use in our transmission system of our Maja's C&C; this is from the couture line so this is our transmission so it's a smooth bar with split nuts which actually opens to make it manual so you have a quick movement and if not with these bearings which are on an angle allow us to position microns at the time that other certain angle so and we make this component the bearing off easily by an assembly so but I mean even even a very simple part like a fine adjustment of our machines we don't buy we make it part of the stock support system of the split and of emerges little tiny parts of the wheels I mean really when we say we make everything we we do it it helps being close to the actual customers a market that we have with pretty much run into the same problems with tooling we try to push the envelope and come up with ideas to make them more productive it allows us to also test in a way our products you know we put them put into market feedback we get from from them so CMM which that's right or second this is actually our product I mean we made this product from more or less upped until 0 it's a CMM made for a shop floor environment so it's the same construction characteristics as our pre setters we don't sell it anymore we service it we still have a certain number of them out in the in the market mainly car manufacturers in Europe in Italy for example one as a bull in their logo one as a horse in their logo one has makes brakes for these ones that starts with a bee I mean they they all still have these we still certify them and this is one we kept for ourselves because we measure parts we measure the taper of our spindles and measure some other parts where as opposed on this side where we finished grind all of our parts we do to sort of inspections basically what you see there is a rotation of our is checking magic spindles right now that the sensor we are using is one tenth of a micron in terms of resolution we take a point every milliseconds and we do two rotations so this range that the complete rotation twice around all of this ugly graph is 0.0 microns so anything close to a micron or over a micron he doesn't like it was a way he regrind it because the spindle is the key one of the key components is not the key component we see the priests error we said before as the zero point of your manufacturing you set your tools it gets scatter guarantee it's in the same position in the machine there's a whole lot of other things that are happening while you're manufacturing and if something happens you got to go back to a sure point so the closest to zero we can get the better is for you I mean one of the first things and we still hear it sometimes I don't need that precision why do I need it so precise because we are the zero point who wants a ruler that those zero one and sort of guessing in between if we see yourself at zero the closest we are at zero and guaranteed is zero to you the manufacturer the more you have for other things and there's a whole lot of other things out there and also coming back repeatability job number one something happens I got a book go back to it's your point this is why we're sort of extreme in trying to look for these half microns and tenth of a micron everywhere here we do ID or the you'll see flanges you see a lot of our components or all of our round parts we do here the other thing is doing which is assembling a spindle of a majus basically there you'll see as well we don't use a commercial bearing we make our own bearing so we make the sealing we put in our fears sorry and then we actually pack the bearing ourselves to meant to guarantee that sort of precision outside so this is something we also do on the magic on the future and on the ascent is Pindos so here are some of the part that we I mean pretty much everything and anything that that you see then on your on the machines so this year is machine serial number four it was actually built in as you saw we introduce them in and this is when we started making preset as you saw you know we got this idea of making preserves how should we make them this is our very first interpretation we didn't make a bench top we didn't make we make something that in some ways in terms of size very similar to a to a machine tool you know down to the micron fine adjustment rotating spindle obviously dial indicators the optic system came after but this is interpretation number of number one so that's counting see that's the last thing it's a it's one my current I wanted the graphics of the new soffit to look like that they said no I couldn't do it not yet but and what you'll see on here it's a tool I didn't put it here by mistake it's actually wanted because well because those days the plant was built we were we started becoming from a job shop making sub assembly for machine to manufacture to a preset a company we purchased I say we because the first sip machine and sip in Switzerland C sip logo and this other logo Kaiser logo made tools so the machine already cost pretty much as much as the land the whole building and everything so during a trip my dad at Kaiser with mr. Kaiser Heinz not mr. Kaiser bought tools from him and because of customs he actually smuggled the tools under the seat of his chin which into into Italy in order not to pay to save like some sort of and that's right here and on the sea huh no what do you smell attractive so but this is actually one of them and in the drawers of the SIP we still use some of the original Kaiser tools in those in the safe to do some open so that's why it's here and the head and the head still works also of course that's the Grande yes the holder is not original but the difference here on the scales you see if I push this there are absolute scales because you didn't have the zeroing so anywhere you are it starts counting so you always measured with difference no so as you can see I mean the spindle still turns within a few microns fast movement fine adjustment moving you tested before so in the showroom portion at Cerrone they had some really awesome demonstrations on how to use their to pre setters but then also what's coming kind of what's that next step and their tool management system was pretty impressive actually effectively at the version of what we saw in the big Kaiser Tour card here to that factory to our video but it is total information think like an ERP system but for every cutting tool for every insert for every collet for every holder organization storage bins that interface machines or tablets that could be at your pcs really fascinating a really great presentation and the hospitality here was second to none they had a wonderful event with wonderful food and they effectively shut down their facility for a day to allow us to get a really good intimate tour and see how their products were made so big shout out and the big THANK YOU to the spur ot team for that hope you folks learn something hope you enjoyed take care see you soon
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